What Oil do you use?

[Piotrov]

Was wondering what the majority of you use in your Celica.
I use Motul but I cant find a Shop around Mississauga that sells it.
Does anyone know any shops around Miss that sell the stuff?
Dont want to go all the way to Markham to get it and im due for a
oil change.

[brandon6976]

I usually just get whatever toyota gives .. but I've been thinking I might want to go to synthetic and do it myself .. since I know where the filter is now (after finding the skid plate coming off hehe)

[B-WRX]

I've been sticking with the Toyota stuff. But I've got enough kms on the car now that I'm thinking of switching to synthetic. Still gotta do more research on it though, not really sure it's worth the extra $$.

[brandon6976]

Gb on drums of oil :lol:

[Piotrov]

I've been sticking with the Toyota stuff. But I've got enough kms on the car now that I'm thinking of switching to synthetic. Still gotta do more research on it though, not really sure it's worth the extra $$.

You can feel the difference after a few kilometers.
After i switched from Regular toyota oil to Motul it was like driving a whole new car.
The engine ran so much smoother and felt like it has better pick up.
Not much but you could fee the difference.
I dont think i could go back to regular oil.

[brandon6976]

do you change the oil yourself ??

do you use the Toyota filter or a different one ?

[B-WRX]

hMMM.... I've used synthetics in the past on VW's and I didn't notice a difference in the feel. However the GT-S is completely different type of beast.

The reason why I have hesitate to switch to syn on my GT-S is a long time ago John Hotchkis recommended not to used syn in the GT-S. I'll have to dig up the post on Newcelica and link it here.

[Piotrov]

Did he give a reason why not to use sytnetic?
I do change they oil myself.
As for the filter i use Toyota Brand. Heard if something
happens they can void your warranty if you have a aftermarket filter but then again they would void it anyway. :D

I already tried getting drums of Motul but cant find a distributer for it.

[brandon6976]

just curious I don't know much about the synthetics do you use Motel for a reason?? is it better than castrols or the others ?

[Piotrov]

Yea. Motul Is alot better
it gives way more protection to your engine and is much lighter which inturn gives you more power for the car. Its a bit more expencive.
I pay about 50 to 60 bucks just for one oil change but i think its worth it.
Change oil about every 8,000 km.
Also Motul is all natural. So if you happen to spill it on the grass... No big deal the ground will absorb it and not leave a black spot on your lawn or kill your plants.
Rally teams like Subaru use Motul also alot of other racing teams. Very popular oil among racing teams.

[B-WRX]

Okay here's on of the main quotes that scared me off.

"Synthetic oil is great if you you drive normal... I know Celica owners can not stay off the pedal for too long of a time..!!!!!
"Redline Oil" has an awesome 5w 30 which we use in our street/race Celica.... Now I know it may run a little bit more, but for a high reving engine like the 1zz or 2zz, I would stay away from synthetic... All the additives that are used in the oil are not good, plus at high temperatures synthetic gets really thin..."

I can't post the link, but if you do a search on Newcelica.com using the following: Synthetic and for a user name type in J.C. This will bring up the one and only link. [/url]

[B-WRX]

Yea. Motul Is alot better
it gives way more protection to your engine and is much lighter which inturn gives you more power for the car. Its a bit more expencive.
I pay about 50 to 60 bucks just for one oil change but i think its worth it.
Change oil about every 8,000 km.
Also Motul is all natural. So if you happen to spill it on the grass... No big deal the ground will absorb it and not leave a black spot on your lawn or kill your plants.
Rally teams like Subaru use Motul also alot of other racing teams. Very popular oil among racing teams.

Cool, so I'm I getting this right.... Motul is natural and not synthetic?

[Pete00]

i use whatever toyota gives me...however a couple bay workers at don valley told me they use the esso brand oil, not genuine toyota oil :| (possibily a rumour though).

redline oil or redlyne oil? i think i saw some of that at pac mall.

[Piotrov]

it is a syntetic oil thats composed of plants rather then oil.

Here is their site if you guys want to brows through it.

http://www.motul.com/home.html

I see the problem Hotchkins is stressing.
Thats why i use 15w 40 for high RPM's
You just gotta let the engine warm up before you get going or its gonna be a bit slugish.

[brandon6976]

Okay here's on of the main quotes that scared me off.

"Synthetic oil is great if you you drive normal... I know Celica owners can not stay off the pedal for too long of a time..!!!!!
"Redline Oil" has an awesome 5w 30 which we use in our street/race Celica.... Now I know it may run a little bit more, but for a high reving engine like the 1zz or 2zz, I would stay away from synthetic... All the additives that are used in the oil are not good, plus at high temperatures synthetic gets really thin..."

I can't post the link, but if you do a search on Newcelica.com using the following: Synthetic and for a user name type in J.C. This will bring up the one and only link. [/url]

that sounds kinda fishy .. I mean its possible it may get thinner at high temp but isn't that what the weight is for ??

I've seen crazy ass oils where you can get way higher than 30w.. hhmmmm

[Prafull Koli]

$50 BUCKS FOR AN OIL CHG???????????????? holy crap...that's fucking crazy ass expensive...

I admire your dedication to the car of your car Pilotrov...but I would never...I guess cuz' I know I'm getting rid of it in a few years...but shit...that's gonna be over $500 a year for oil changes..guess depending on how much you drive...

[brandon6976]

hehe I'd pay that. I mean I'm keeping my car so if its good for the engine I would easily pay that.

[Piotrov]

$50 BUCKS FOR AN OIL CHG???????????????? holy crap...that's fucking crazy ass expensive...

I admire your dedication to the car of your car Pilotrov...but I would never...I guess cuz' I know I'm getting rid of it in a few years...but shit...that's gonna be over $500 a year for oil changes..guess depending on how much you drive...

That is alot of money but i plan to keep my car for a long time plus
its a one season car a year so for the winter i can get a beater.

Now i want you guys to know that you should do some reaserche on this since i just go by what i have been told by a shop in Markham called
N1 Auto. They orgenize track days at shannonville race way and thats what they use on their cars and they recomend it.
So im taking a risk by trusting them.
Call me stupid eh? :roll:

[brandon6976]

naw its not stupid .. just lots of us are nosey and want to know the "why"

[Prafull Koli]

nah...not stupid...prolly just more careful with the things you own...I can be pretty careless with stuff..*(hate to admit it but it's true)... I gave a good example the other day...

we should take Pilotrov's car out onto Shannonville's track and see if there is a difference :D what d'ya say ol' pal!!!! lol just jokin'..

but seriously...it;s a good quesiton, and reminds me, i gotta get mine done...I'll prolly go into the dealership and get to the toyota stuff in there...I get a discount so being the cheap ass I am, I'll faithfully stick to it till the discounts up...I hate paying more than I think I have to...(that statement in itself is pretty objective)

[Piotrov]

I mean oil is oil the only thing is if you use more syntetic oil your engine will last longer if you plan to keep your car for 3 or 4 years then it makes no much difference.

I did take my car to shannonvill last year and loved it. Although i only had my springs so couldent compete with the other guys and just chewed up my tires cuz im a AMATURE! :D
but it was fun as hell.

[MannyGT-S]

I use mobil 1 10W 30..I find the car runs smoother especially at high RPM...

[brandon6976]

found this link. Has some stuff on synthetic oil.

Obviously written by the people who sell it but still

http://www.mobil1.com/why/index.jsp

[MannyGT-S]

My brother used to work at a lube shop and he said the synthetics he recommends are Mobil 1 and Quaker State Synthetic.

[brandon6976]

My brother used to work at a lube shop and he said the synthetics he recommends are Mobil 1 and Quaker State Synthetic.

he heard of Motul ? just curious I never even heard of it. but i've never really looked for any oils and I ain't much into rally so I don't know the little details like that

[Piotrov]

My brother used to work at a lube shop and he said the synthetics he recommends are Mobil 1 and Quaker State Synthetic.

he heard of Motul ? just curious I never even heard of it. but i've never really looked for any oils and I ain't much into rally so I don't know the little details like that

Not many places carry it thats why im having a tough time finding some in mississauga.

[brandon6976]

doesn't look like it is
http://www.motul.com/uk/attitude/reseau/amnord/canada.html

is the list of places (at least authorized places) where its sold.

I don't know if you know the guys there well but maybe if enough people were interested we could get a small gb .. I'd be up for getting some.. maybe you could buy a couple cases or something ?

Also just curious where do you get the Toyota Filters ?

[B-WRX]

Also just curious where do you get the Toyota Filters ?

ummm... how about the dealership :D

[Pete00]

Also just curious where do you get the Toyota Filters ?

ummm... how about the dealership :D

:lol:

[brandon6976]

hehe well figured you COULD get them there .. just wondering if he had found some other place possibly cheap ..

on a side note I know there are TRD filters that are suppose to be better. no idea if its worth it or how much more it would be.

obviously lots of companies make compatible filters.

[Piotrov]

The dealer is where i get my filters from.
I was curious about the TRD filters as well also TRD spark plugs.
Anyone know anything?
A group buy on Oil. Sounds interesting.
Let me see if i can work something out when i
go pick up my oil probably next week.

[B-WRX]

I copied this off of the Porsche web site.

"The 911 Turbo comes pre-filled with 11 litres of Mobil 1 high-performance synthetic oil. The superb lubrication properties of this oil ensure a reliable start, no matter how low the temperature. Mobil 1 also offers maximum protection for your engine as well as better fuel economy. Even in full racing conditions."

I think my next oil change will be Mobil1 15W-50. :D

[brandon6976]

The dealer is where i get my filters from.
I was curious about the TRD filters as well also TRD spark plugs.
Anyone know anything?
A group buy on Oil. Sounds interesting.
Let me see if i can work something out when i
go pick up my oil probably next week.

For spark plugs I think I'm gonna get something else as I will be going nitrous .. as for the oil just ask if you can get a couple cases or what not and if they'd cut you a deal.

[subterfuge]

Myself I use Castrol. Exclusivly.

Why?

'cause I used to own this uber kewl 1982 Honda ATC 200M. I drove the living carp out of that thing. No shocks, chain drive, air cooled. I would run that thing wide open and nearly red-hot through the 'feed-lot 500' (don't ask..) and directly into icey streams where the cylinder wall would promply contract to the point where it would stall and briefly cease..

I sware the only reason that thing lasted as long as it did was the Castrol motor oil. If I put Quaker state or pretty much anything else in it, it would be BLACK after one ride. The Castol seemed to resist breaking down the best out of all the differnt oils I tried..

[Piotrov]

Myself I use Castrol. Exclusivly.

Why?

'cause I used to own this uber kewl 1982 Honda ATC 200M. I drove the living carp out of that thing. No shocks, chain drive, air cooled. I would run that thing wide open and nearly red-hot through the 'feed-lot 500' (don't ask..) and directly into icey streams where the cylinder wall would promply contract to the point where it would stall and briefly cease..

I sware the only reason that thing lasted as long as it did was the Castrol motor oil. If I put Quaker state or pretty much anything else in it, it would be BLACK after one ride. The Castol seemed to resist breaking down the best out of all the differnt oils I tried..


I used to love Castrol and i still like it i mean its a great oil and its been around for ever.
Then i heard of Motul and since i bought the celica i though that would be my first try and i loved it so i stuck with it.

[Syn]

Pete = Teh Noob. Toyota doesn't make their own oil, they get it from another manufacturer. Probably Exxon.

Exxon is good shiznit. They make the Mobil and Esso branded oil. They also made the Mobil 1 Synthetic, which is probably the best 'regular' synthetic you can buy before getting into racing oil.

I use Exxon regular oil in my celi. Currently 5W30, but switching to 10W in the spring. I change it myself, and save about $10 each time by doing so.

[War]

Okay here's on of the main quotes that scared me off.

"Synthetic oil is great if you you drive normal... I know Celica owners can not stay off the pedal for too long of a time..!!!!!
"Redline Oil" has an awesome 5w 30 which we use in our street/race Celica.... Now I know it may run a little bit more, but for a high reving engine like the 1zz or 2zz, I would stay away from synthetic... All the additives that are used in the oil are not good, plus at high temperatures synthetic gets really thin..."

I can't post the link, but if you do a search on Newcelica.com using the following: Synthetic and for a user name type in J.C. This will bring up the one and only link. [/url]

Well I have a tough time believing this, I really didn't understand why synthetics were better before I met my dad's airplane mechanic (my dad is a pilot, he fly's corparate jets). He was doing a oil change on the jet engines and he was using synthetic oil, I asked him about it and why synthetic's were better and such. He said that jet engine can't run anything but synthetic oils becuase the tempeture is too high and the rpm speed of the engine is too high for conventional oils. He also had a nissan 280 and it had at the time 380,000 km on it and he said he's neve had any problems with it and he attributes that to running synthetics in the car.

In the winter and in the protege 5 I run mobile 1, during race season I run Amsoil or Red Line in my Celica GT-S. I use to run Mobil 1 in my celica for racing too, but mobil 1 changed the way they do synthetics after they lost a lawsuit against castrol for calling their oil synthetic. The way castrol makes synthetic oil is way cheaper to produce, but it isn't a true full synthetic. And so mobil 1 files a lawsuit against them so they couldn't use the word synthetic or full synthetic, but mobil 1 lost and so to cut costs so they could compete price wise with castrol mobil 1 adopted the same technique as castrol.

This is the way it was explain to me, a true real synthetic is made from scratch with certain chemicals, the synthetic oil has cetain properties depending on the chemicals it was made with. Also a true synthetic will have all the molicules the exact same size, there won't be big and small molicules, so that the oil expands and contracts at the same rate and wants to coat evenly and stick to the metal. The way castrol and mobil 1 do it now is, they start with a conventional oil and grow the synthetic oil off of it. Then they micro filter the oil to try and get all the molicules the same size. This is suppose to be a higher grade and partially synthetic oil that offers higher protection, but it isn't a true synthetic and it does not offer as much protection as a true synthetic.

Amsoil and Redline are true synthetics and that's why I use them during race season. If it's not race season I don't push the car as hard and only use the mobil 1 (it does make a noticable difference over conventional oil to me).

I also run with Red Line gear oil in my transaxle, and Quife recomends Red Line synthetic gear oil for their LSD's.

here's a link to grassroots motorsports article on synthetic oil:
http://www.grassrootsmotorsports.com/oiltech.html

[Pete00]

Toyota doesn't make their own oil, they get it from another manufacturer.

Exxon is good shiznit. They make the Mobil and Esso branded oil.

so that is what my buddies meant when they said "toyota does not use genuine toyota motor oil as they advertise."

[brandon6976]

wow thats a good read .. thanks for the info man

[B-WRX]

Good post War!
I did some more research this afternoon and decided I'm switching to synthetic, just gotta pick which one now... :?
I like your way though, Mobil1 during the winter or off season and Amsoil or Redline during the racing/summer season.

Have you ever tried Royal Purple?

[Prafull Koli]

"WAR FOR PRESIDENT!!!"... great post man...it's great we're seeing some real knowledge being shared out there....we can all learn lots...@ $50 tho...that's still toomuch for my blood/oil :giggle:

but this was a great read...thanks war!!

[Piotrov]

Great post war!
Good to know someone has knowlige of syntetic oil's
Always good to know stuff like that :D

[War]

no problem, I know it's frustrating when you can't find the right information on a subject, hope it helped.

[subterfuge]

Fantastic post man!! Thank you!!

There are SO many people (like myself) that don't know stuff like that..

Would you willing to contribute that post as a basis for an content-info articile? Or submitting your own article on the subject?

[War]

Fantastic post man!! Thank you!!

There are SO many people (like myself) that don't know stuff like that..

Would you willing to contribute that post as a basis for an content-info articile? Or submitting your own article on the subject?

use the post how ever you want, I don't really have time to do up an article or anything.

[subterfuge]

use the post how ever you want, I don't really have time to do up an article or anything.

Ye pretty much just did. :D

Thanks man!